2751014 - C25 THE CAR GOES INTO NEUTRAL BY ITSELF

Whilst stopping When travelling at speeds below 80 km/h When stationary with a gear engaged (1st, 2nd or R)
Results of the tests
0CONTROL UNIT ERRORS CHECKAll OKProblems metOperation

Check that there are no control unit errors. In particular:

  • Microprocessor 2 error (in the following condiions: engine on, accelerator pedal released, brake not pressed and speed below 4.5 km/h)
  • Errors on CAN network (in the following conditions: engine on, accelerator pedal released, brake not pressed and speed below 4.5 km/h)
  • Engine speed (in the following conditions: engine on, accelerator pedal released, brake not pressed and speed below 4.5 km/h)
  • Electromagnetic brake (Selection solenoid)
  • Clutch solenoid current
  • Clutch sensor
  • Selespeed pump
Continue to Step 5Presence of one or more of the errors included in the list Continue to Step 1
1CHECKS ON FAULTS DETECTEDAll OKProblems metOperation
Check the faults according to the See Test   2127I  What to do for error in Selespeed control unit Continue to Step 3Replace the Robotized Gearbox control unit (Microprocessor error 2) Continue to Step 3
Faulty connections (CAN errors, Electromagnetic brake error, Clutch sensor and/or Selespeed pump) Repair/replace the wiringContinue to Step 3
One of the control units does not dialogue (Errors on CAN network) Repair/replace the control unit concernedContinue to Step 3
Faulty connection (Engine speed) Repair/replace the part concernedContinue to Step 3
The active diganosis is not successful and there are no faults detected at the wiring (Clutch solenoid valve) Continue to Step 2
Faulty pump relay and/or fuse (Selespeed pump) Replace the componentContinue to Step 3
Faults on pump winding (Selespeed pump) Replace the component Op.   2127C30  Continue to Step 3
2AFTER THE SOLENOID VALVE ACTIVE DIAGNOSISAll OKProblems metOperation
If this step has been reached for the active diagnosis of the clutch solenoid valve, replace it Op.   2127C56  and check the operation by carrying out a C.M.Continue to Step 4.
3SOLENOID VALVE REPLACEMENTAll OKProblems metOperation
If there is an electromagnetic brake error and no faults are detected at the connections/wiring, replace Op.   2127C54  and check brake operationContinue to Step 4.
4AFTER THE CHECKS ON THE FAULTS DETECTEDAll OKProblems metOperation
Check that the fault is no longer presentEnd of diagnosisThe fault persists Continue to Step 5
5OIL LEVEL CHECKAll OKProblems metOperation
Check the oil level as described in See Test   2127B  OIL LEVEL CHECK Continue to Step 7Level below the Max reference Top up the oil levelContinue to Step 6
Level above the Max reference Reduce to the Max levelContinue to Step 7
6CHECK FOR OIL LEAKSAll OKProblems metOperation
Check that there are no oil leaks as described in See Test   2127C  CHECK FOR OIL LEAKS Continue to Step 7OIl leaks detected Replace/repair the parts concerned, and top up the oil levelContinue to Step 6
7OIL PRESSURE CHECKAll OKProblems metOperation
Check the oil pressure as described in See Test   2127D  OIL PRESSURE CHECK .
Neutral for low pressure only exists if the vehicle is stationary or moving at low speed (about 10-15 km/h)
Continue to Step 9Pressure < 40 bar Continue to Step 8
8ELECTRIC PUMP OPERATION CHECKAll OKProblems metOperation
Check the correct operation of the pump as described in See Test   2127E  ELECTRIC PUMP OPERATION CHECK Continue to Step 9Voltage below 11 V Check the batteryContinue to Step 8
It is not possible to make gear changes from the lever Activate the 'clutch bleed' service from the Examiner Plus or Smart to activate the pumpContinue to Step 9
9DOOR SWITCH CHECKAll OKProblems metOperation
Check the state of the driver's door switch (it should be remembered that the system recognizes the opening of the door if the accelerator pedal is released for 2 seconds, the brake not pressed and the speed is below 4.5 km/h)Continue to Step 10The door switch is not working properly Check the state of the connections, the wiring and the switch. Repair/replace the part that is not working
10CHECK THE CORRECT OPERATION OF THE LEVERAll OKProblems metOperation
Check the operation of the lever (remembering that neutral can be engaged with the vehicle moving at speeds below 80 km/h when the brake and accelerator pedals are released)End of diagnosisThe lever is not working properly Check the state of the connections and the wiring. Repair/replace the part that is not working